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Submitted by Nitpicker : 13082
Movie : Patriot, The - 2000
Nitpick Category : Historical Fact
Nitpick Number : 22140
Approximate time of Nitpick : right at the end
Summary : The American Revolution in an alternative universe...
Detail : It is hard to determine where the climactic battle is supposed to take place. Is it Cowpens? Is it Guilford Courthouse? The terrain doesn't look like either battlefield (there was no ruined house on the Cowpens battlefield and the Guilford Courthouse battlefield was mostly heavily wooded). Evidently, Guilford Courthouse was intended because Gen Nathanial Greene is in command of the American forces and Cornwallis is in command of the British forces. Neither was at Cowpens. However, while Cowpens was an American victory, Guilford Courthouse was not. Col Banastre Tarleton (the model of the movie's Col Tavington)commanded the British forces at Cowpens and his troops were annihilated there (Tarleton and about 50 troopers got away). Tarleton was not at Guilford Courthouse.


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Possible Battle

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by 31421   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

The climactic battle was probably Guilford Court House, N.C. There were woods around the battlefield depicted in the movie. However, the large climactic battle wouldn't look so good on film if it was obscured by trees. It is true that Greene and the Americans withdrew from the battlefield, but they forced Cornwallis to abandon his Carlona Campaign and move to Yorktown because he had lost so many men. The battle was Hollywood-ized, Cornwallis didn't retreat, but Guilford Court House ended Cornwallis' domination of the South, and forced him to regroup at Yorktown, where he was cornered and thus surrendered. The 'climactic battle' depicted in the movie can thus be interpreted as a combination of Cowpens and Guilford Court House (which occurred occurred within 2 months of each other) into a symbolic decisive battle that forces Cornwallis to Yorktown, which the two battles did do.

 

It's Supposed to be Cowpens

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by Rockhound   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

It's supposed to be Cowpens because if you watch the credits, one of the characters is listed as Cowpens Soldier.

 

combination

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by 34965   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

I'd say the battle where Mel and his son watch from the farm house is Camden. We know this because General Gage (ah, this might not be his name) ran away from the battle, with his staff not far behind. I'd say the final battle is a combination between Guilford Courthouse (because Conrwallis did order his artillery to fire directly into British and American troops) and Cowpens because we held the field after that one.

 

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by 42882   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

The movie was never intended to be a factual retelling of the Revolution. It's a piece of fiction set during the period that takes great liberties with the facts, places, and people involved. Gibson's Martin character never really lived; he's a composite of several historical figures (most notably Francis Marion). The ruthless Colonel Tavington somewhat resembles the real-life General Banastre Tarleton, albeit very loosely, and likewise never existed in real life. It's reasonable to assume that the final battle is a very distorted and historically inaccurate interpretation of Cowpens or another battle, re-imagined in a way that would better fit the romantic and ultra-patriotic nature of the film, with many historical facts disgarded. The Patriot is not unlike Gladiator in it being a tale of fiction, with a fictional composite protagonist (Gladiator's Maximus bearing a resemblance to Cincinnatus and the real assassin of Commodus, Narcissus), being set in a real-life historical timeframe with real historical figures thrown in (Cornwallis in the former, the Emperor Commodus in the latter).