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Submitted by Nitpicker : 14084
Movie : Titanic - 1997
Nitpick Category : Historical Fact
Nitpick Number : 22999
Approximate time of Nitpick : 3/4 of the way through
Summary : Colt 1911 pistols
Detail : Rose's fiancee opens fire on her and DiCaprio with a customized Colt 1911 pistol. The pistol was military issue when it first came out, and for military ONLY - no matter how much money you had, you couldn't have gotten one legally as a civilian in 1911 or 1912. Even if the pistol was obtained illegally, there were no customized models available until well after the Titanic sank.


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Lovejoy?

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by 24703   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

cal got the gun off lovejoy. Lovejoy is a retired cop so maybe he had some sort of contact in the military who was able to get him a specialised gun. i don't really know i'm just theorising!

 

Well, actually

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by 31281   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

In 1911, John M Browning, the developer of the the Colt 1911 pistol made three models of it, two in .45 ACP and one in .38 ACP (not to be confused with .380 ACP). The military refused the .38 model since they wanted a caliber of at least .45, but Colt continued to produce .38 ACP 1911's for the civilian market. I think he might have used one of those.

 

Correcting comment 30291

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by 31281   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

I made a mistake in comment 30291. The Colt 1911 was not made in .38 ACP until 1929 when some models were made in .38 super (an improved .38 ACP), back in 1911 there were only .45 ACP models around... however, Colt 1911's were first avaible on the civilian market in march 1912 I think, but I could be mistaken on the exact date, but 'government' 1911's were avaible somewhere in that year, but I don't think he could have gotten his pistol customized in such a short time.

 

Money makes the world go round....

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by A1nut   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

If you had enough money, and the right connections with the right people, you could probably get anything you wanted. Even a customized Colt 1911 pistol in 1912. Who knows, Lovejoy might have stolen it, or paid to have it stolen, then had it customized special so that you couldn't recognize it as being stolen.

 

Experimental Only

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by 44472   Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:29 PM

The Colt 1911 was still in "experimental" status with the U.S. Military. As a result, there were very few in existance in April 1912, and every one of them was kept locked up on Army bases. There was simply NO WAY a civilian, even a wealthy and well-connected one, could have gotten his hands on one of the guns back in 1912. Think about how experimental military weapons are handled today- it really wasn't all that different in 1912.